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Teach fingering to toddler

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23 Jun 2015 15:03 #20141 by telu
Replied by telu on topic Teach fingering to toddler
Now, at last, things have started rolling! A few weeks ago, my daughter all of a sudden started playing Ode to Joy! This was the first piece she ever played, and I filmed it. (I will start a progress diary and upload the movie later on.) Ironically, she hated Mr. Oops, playing the Guess key game, and basically all other things proposed by you in the curriculum. But then I found out that she really loved the do-re-mi song from "Sound of Music". By now, she must have listened to it 300 times or so! Out of this, i.e. with the help of Julie Andrews, I finally managed to have her play the piano - and she was sure to start with her papa's favourite musical piece (except for Carmina Burana)! :)

By now, she is already playing the other pieces (Hot cross buns, French song etc.) quite well, but a new problem has appeared: the very topic of this thread. I am having the same problem as the thread starter here. During the last few weeks I must have tried everything in order to have her play with at least three fingers, but in vain. Showing her myself, trying to direct her fingers, showing your videos...nothing works. Even when I bribe her with ice cream she starts to cry when I ask her to play with three fingers. So what are parents having this problem supposed to do? As far as I understand, you are telling us that the problem will pass with age, as she enters a new stage in her development? But when exactly will this happen? Are we supposed to let her play Ode to joy, Hot cross buns and French song with her index finger every night for the next six months, or what?

In other words: Where am I supposed to go from here? How can I break this deadlock?

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25 Jun 2015 08:46 - 25 Jun 2015 08:47 #20169 by hellene
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Did you read this material? www.softmozart.com/forum/20-hellene-hine...rite-a-new-book.html
I have a section there dedicated to the fingering and gradual process of introducing them based on the figures of the performance.

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26 Jun 2015 15:33 #20174 by OurFamily
Thank you for the question, this is encouraging as we start teaching with a 2.5 year old. He loves learning but has a hard time making all the connections just yet:)

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30 Aug 2015 14:22 #20693 by telu
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One step forward and two steps back for me at the moment... :( My daughter was playing Hot Cross Buns, French Song and Ode to Joy very well with her index finger when I wanted her to start playing with at least three. Then, however, she refused to let us hold her little fingers and show her how to play correctly, and she is still strongly refusing this, so I have no idea what to do. She starts yelling hysterically and jumps off the chair if we try this, and she is not interested in watching us play correctly with all fingers either. I really don't understand how people manage to have two and three year olds play the piano since toddlers of this age are not only obstinate but also in the "Do myself!"-stage of development. Is there any magic formula? Or just genetics?

What is much worse, ironically, is that she actually seems to listen to me and my wife when we tell her to play with more than one finger, but then she tends to mess everything up, playing with all fingers randomly and even with both hands on treble staff if we press the "R" button in Gentle Piano.

I saw this video that someone had published on the forum:
. Is it possible to download those hands from somewhere or do you have to make them yourself?

Some extra help would also be appreciated, because I really don't know what to do any longer. We try to use Soft Mozart with her every day, but this doesn't seem do help. And bribes/rewards...yes, they are plentiful!

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31 Aug 2015 09:46 #20696 by hellene
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Hello, telu!
Let me try to help you!
You wrote:

telu wrote: One step forward and two steps back for me at the moment... :( My daughter was playing Hot Cross Buns, French Song and Ode to Joy very well with her index finger when I wanted her to start playing with at least three.


Out motto is GENTLE teaching. Let's switch ourselves from the mode I wanted her to start playing with at least three.
to the 'I wanted to motivate her to start with at least three.

How can we motivate? Let's try to cut this elephant in smaller pieces. Can you cut just 2 bars of 'Hot Cross Buns'? Do you know, how to cut a small segments of the piano pieces? There will be just Mi Re Do for her right hand. Place 3 butterflies - flags - whatever music currency you have - 3 of them.
Offer: let's play the game: you play MI with the 3rd, RE with the index and DO with the thumb. You get 1 piece for each right finger. 3 pieces is yours? You won. Let's go!

Then, however, she refused to let us hold her little fingers and show her how to play correctly, and she is still strongly refusing this, so I have no idea what to do.


With active learning children do not want to be hold or patronize. The key is the organic growth. Just give her a smaller task. It seems to me like she is developing from her fingers' awareness to the stage of controlling each finger. Cutting music in smaller segments is the very good way to go. Another way is to use different games.

You can ask to deep the child's hand into play-dough. There will be 5 holes for each finger, Place a tiny pictures of Door, Rain, Mirror next to each hole and ask to lift 'finger Do or finger Mi. This way your child will learn how to control fingers by name, for example.

She starts yelling hysterically and jumps off the chair if we try this, and she is not interested in watching us play correctly with all fingers either.


Of cause! She want to learn organically! You can be proud: she is a strong person. Our goal is to give her tools, how to and she will figure everything out!

I really don't understand how people manage to have two and three year olds play the piano since toddlers of this age are not only obstinate but also in the "Do myself!"-stage of development. Is there any magic formula? Or just genetics?


You will learn it too! Did you have a chance to listen to the webinar? pianolearningsoftware.com/pages/webinar_1

What is much worse, ironically, is that she actually seems to listen to me and my wife when we tell her to play with more than one finger, but then she tends to mess everything up, playing with all fingers randomly and even with both hands on treble staff if we press the "R" button in Gentle Piano.


Did you try these tricks to avoid visual over stimulation? www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.442489...2883088098340&type=3
You may cover another half of the screen, cut the piece to a tiny segment and watch. Reward, when she got it. But don't be all over her, don't touch her hands and don't correct her as she trying to do something.

I saw this video that someone had published on the forum:

. Is it possible to download those hands from somewhere or do you have to make them yourself?


Get brown and green construction paper, trace HER hands. It will be FUN for all of you, It will be HER hands.

Some extra help would also be appreciated, because I really don't know what to do any longer. We try to use Soft Mozart with her every day, but this doesn't seem do help. And bribes/rewards...yes, they are plentiful!


Please, listen to the webinar about rewards. Quantity is not the key with this trick.

Thank you very much for sharing the problems with us! I know, how hard it is to teach your own child. But you are going to have so much fun and so healthy and rewarding relationship in future if you will understand what GENTLE teaching is all about, I am here to help you in any way I can.

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19 Jan 2016 14:24 #21704 by telu
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Now, at last, my daughter has actually begun to play with all fingers on the right hand properly, i.e. thumb for DO up to little finger for SOL (=basic position). However, the big question now is: Where do we go from here? I don't even know this myself. I feel completely confused about the various hanon exercises - not to mention Fingerobics 8, for example. (I saw that there is another thread on the forum about the "logic" behind Fingerobics 8, and I agree with the poster there...)

While the software/invention itself is excellent, I think one of your biggest problems except for proper price setting of the product is structure. There is simply too much information pulling in all directions at the same time. Please, Elena, in this case ('teach fingering to toddler') couldn't you do a simple step-by-step guide "for dummies", explaining what the next step is after the toddler can play from middle DO to SOL with proper fingers? For example: I find it hardly impossible to suddenly have her play lower DO with her little finger (as in some Fingerobics exercises) since she now "knows" that DO is equivalent to the thumb. She cries hysterically if I try to explain that DO can mean other fingers as well. And I understand her.

Therefore, I would really like to see some numbered/ordered guide when it comes to fingering. I know that there are Youtube videos on how you play each and every (hanon) exercise, but this is not enough I am afraid.

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